• CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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    No, the steering wheel does not accelerate laterally. It just changes the direction of the front wheels which dictate the direction in which a vehicle is accelerated.

    RCS thrusters for example are accelerators. A steering wheel is not.

    Would the steering wheel have the accelerating wheel on the side of the car it is supposed to turn slow down (like how track tanks turn) it would be an accelerator.

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      Acceleration and velocity are both vectors dude, they have magnitude and direction. Acceleration is a change in velocity over time, so if you’re moving and you change directions, that constitutes a change in velocity, i.e. an acceleration.

      Hell, Newton’s second law: F=ma. Your car isn’t going to change mass appreciably mid-corner, so we can say that the force you feel is proportional to your acceleration. Did you feel yourself turning? Felt your ass slide and body lean? You feel you experience a force, an acceleration.

      This concept is foundational to elementary mechanics, you cannot pass physics 1, calculus 1, or I think even college algebra without knowing these concepts.

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          Your lateral velocity is changing. Change in velocity = acceleration. In fact, you’re now traveling in a circle, which requires constant acceleration towards the center.

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          Lemme break it down for ya:

          • Velocity is speed (magnitude) plus a direction (vector)
          • Acceleration is a change in velocity, not speed. The magnitude doesn’t have to change in order for there to be an acceleration.
          • without steering input, your definition of acceleration would be correct, i.e. the acceleration vector will be in the same dimension as your direction of travel.
          • Even if speed remains constant, a change of direction is a change in the vector, which may be n-dimensional.
          • By virtue of your acknowledgement that there is a change of direction, you are also acknowledging that the body was acted upon by a force, since by newton’s law, everything should remain constant otherwise.
          • Changing heading means you introduce/ add a lateral vector into your original heading. If speed remains the same, the velocity in your original heading is actually reduced, even if your speed remains constant.
          • The change of direction is introduced by the interaction of the tyres and the road. Now that the tires have turned, a lateral force is introduced due to them no longer turning along the axis of minimum rolling resistance. The car responds by following the path of least resistance, which should follow the incidence direction of the tyres. Believe it or not, due to energy loss at the tyres your car will actually slow down during the turn without throttle input.
          • According to my buddy Newton, force experiences is equal to mass times acceleration
          • The mass you pretty much know is the mass of the car. The lateral force/ acceleration wouldn’t have happened without the steering.
          • The image says physicists, so yes, this isn’t as boring as it sounds, but it is an interesting thought experiment. Thanks for playing!
        • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
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          Changing direction by definition is an acceleration. If it wasn’t, then all our math about planets, rockets getting to planets, etc, would be wrong.

          A steering wheel could be called a “centripetal accelerator”, since it induces acceleration toward the center of a radius/circle.

          This is high school level physics, one of the first things you learn.

          https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/centripetal-acceleration/

          • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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            Yeah I think the guy above you has an argument though. The steering wheel only acts as an accelerator if the vehicle is actually in motion. But then the brake also does that, so maybe there is a point in naming them differently.

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            Face it, planets are hanging from the celestial ceiling - on wires. Galilei’s herecy has been debunked. The end is nigh! Eat more sawdust! Ahoohaa!

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          You need to revisit the concept of centripetal acceleration. You are remembering incorrectly. Any change in the velocity vector is acceleration. That can be magnitude and/or direction.