I read that as well, and it addresses none of that. Also, you can replace components on a lot of laptops, and ALL components on a Framework. This is why they are so sought after.
Whoever wrote this is making a bad faith argument and throwing an ignorant assertion out to serve a specific purpose, which…is not stated 🤣
“My whole desk setup now easily fits into a backpack and I can take it anywhere”
Man, I guess I’ve been fooled using laptops this entire time. IM SO STUPID
More like “Fart and Then Squeal” amirite?
Yet another thing the Nazi’s did, except now you’re using computers. Fucking mind-blowing innovation.
🤣 That isn’t a relational diagram. Simply pointing out the three bus paths.
Guess you know what to stop using then lolz
Valve and Samsung were way more popular at the time. Now people have just capitulated to some of the dumb shit you have to do to run Oculus.
Theirs aren’t usable without an account though, and the hoops you have to jump through to sideload things to use it on Mac or Linux are not for amateurs.
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Until they make an AFFORDABLE display with multi-platform support, this is going nowhere. I also really don’t think that FAANG companies realize how toxic their image is. If they were smartz they’d be make these more open for people to hack on and stop forcing shit down people’s throats. They would sell way more units and get better adoption.
I’m not even sure where you got this RAM talking to storage thing from. This is why I’m saying you don’t know what you’re talking about it. I think your fundamental understanding of this is flawed.
Disgusting. I’ve been jumping ship from cloud anything whenever I can. This just cements that even more.
Seems like there might be a better way to go about this…
Dumbshittery is afoot!
I don’t even think you know what you’re trying to say at this point, because it’s not making sense. Think what you will, but it’s obvious your conception of how computer architecture works is flawed. You’ll see this memory in machines and hopefully figure it out though. Good luck 🤞
No, you misunderstood. A current standard computer bus path is guaranteed to have at least 3 bus paths: CPU, RAM, Storage.
The amount of energy required to communicate between all three parts varies, but you can be guaranteed that removing just one PLUS removing the capacitor requirement for the memory will reduce power consumption by 1/3 of whatever that total bus power consumption is. This is ignoring any other additional buses and doing the bare minimum math.
The speed of this memory would matter less if you’re also reducing the static storage requirement. The speed at which it can communicate with the CPU only is what would matter, so if you’re not traversing CPU>RAM>SSD and only doing CPU>DRAM+, it’s going to be more efficient.
It’s not theoretical, it’s just math. Removing 1/3 of the bus paths, and also removing the need to constantly keep RAM powered…it’s quite a reduction when you’re thinking at large scale. If AWS or Google could reduce their energy needs by 33% on anything, they’d take it in a heartbeat. Thats just assuming this would/could be used somehow as a drop-in replacement, which seems unlikely. Think of an SoC with this on board, or an APU. The premise itself reduces cost while increasing efficiency, but again, they really need to get some sheets out and productize it before most companies will do much more than simply do trial runs for such things.
I think you’re stuck in the traditional viewpoint of a computer being CPU+Mem+Storage. That’s fine for a single machine that a regular user would have.
This type of memory could essentially wipe out the need for traditional deployments in datacenters by having memory banks of this stuff operating with many CPUs as a client on a bus with no local storage needed, so just CPU+Mem and everything loaded into a known state via network storage that won’t go away if something loses power or crashes. It would definitely make the current idiotic use of GPUs more cost-effective and less wasteful.
If you try and take that down to a regular user needing a use-case, it’s really only going to matter for developers building things for such a system because it’s such a new idea having stateful memory. You may just be thinking about it like a single user, which is not what it would be used for at all (at first).
To your other question about the actual speed: current memory speeds only need to be that fast because of the storage involved and shuttling data across a bus between the three parts. Getting this new type of stateful memory to higher speeds than a current storage device would already show a performance benefit because you’re removing one step in the total transfer path between all three points and just having the two. So really a speed of something higher than SSD but slower than current DDR speeds should still see a benefit in theory.
Overall, this has been a path for things for quite awhile, and they’ve obviously got to get some sheets out to explain the performance and efficiency benefits still, and it will require a complete rework of how current CPUs and bridge controllers work…it’s quite a ways off from being an everyday product.
This type of memory creates a new kind of state capability for HPC computing and huge core-scaled workloads, so maybe that’s why you’re confused.
HP basically created the physical use-case awhile back with something called The Machine. They got up to the point of having all the hardware pieces functional and even built a Linux-ish OS, but then needed customers before getting to tackling the memory portion. Hence, why this type of memory tech exists.
We’re in a bit of weird time right now with computing in general where we’re sort of straddling the line between continuing projects with traditional computing and computers, or spending the time and effort to attempt to adapt certain projects to quantum computing. This memory is just one hardware path forward for traditional computing to keep scaling outward.
Where it makes the most sense: huge HPC clusters. Where it doesn’t: everywhere else.
I assume the author mentions “AI” because you could load an entire data set into this type of memory and have workers and have many NPU cores or clusters working off of the same address space without it being changed. Way faster than disk and it eliminates the context switching problem if you’re sure it’s state stays static.
The point is that this is a fake assertion to push a product.