El Barto

Uh, yes? It’s not about sending a message inside MS only. It was about sending it out there. See how we’re discussing the story? Are we MS employees? Where’s my 401K?

…maybe.

Or, hear me out, the dude specifically applied for Microsoft with the intention of changing shit.

Oh yeah, “modern day slavery has been a problem for years. Why be vocal about it now?”

Look, I am a cynical nobody, so I sometimes think “nothing will ever change.” But some brave souls, more idealistic than me, take these steps with the hope that it will spark change - or at least it will put one more straw in the camel.

So yeah, it’s about sending a message, and I think that’s important.

Don’t feed the trolls.

I know this is a joke, but to be fair, a good chunk of Americans are highly educated. It’s just that the morons are more motivated to vote (and yes, I see the irony of not voting as a moronic thing to do.)

But that’s the thing, man. You can’t just make a blanket statement like “under 18 can’t consent” when there is no universal law stating so.

If you said that under 18 people can’t consent in some jurisdictions from the very beginning, we could have saved so much typing.

Ok, friend. In that case, we’re on the same page.

Teens of a certain age can consent. But I agree that some 40 year old wanting and attempting to have sex with a 17 year old is a fucking depraved predator trying to take advantage of inexperience.

It was about sending a message.

I don’t know why people put up with BS just to play some game.

I guess the neurons that activate in their brains are the same that activate in the brains of smokers that are aware that smoking causes cancer, yet they do it anyway.

Understood. And yeah, language is definitely an interesting topic. “Why do you say ‘So be it’ instead of ‘So is it’?” Most people will say “I don’t know… all I know if that it sounds correct.” Someone will say “it’s because it’s a preterite preposition past imperfect incantation tense used with an composition participle around-the-clock flush adverb, so clearly you must use the subjunctive in this case.” But that’s after studying it years later.

That’s why I said that the avatar should be the same for all court cases. Let’s say Microsoft Office Clippy, though it could have been a stick-man or Bob Ross.

Except that they can provide consent. In the U.S. alone: https://www.ageofconsent.net/states

So, some states allow it, some don’t. But there you have it. In some states (and countries), under 18 people can consent. Now, show me how you’re going to move the goalpost now.

I’ll stop arguing with you because you must be a troll.

Any person who says “children can consent” is fucked up, I agree. Except that that’s not what I said.

People under 18 can consent. They are not necessarily children. I don’t know what the age cut is, probably under 15 or 16. But teens who are 16 and 17 are fucking with consent and nothing you say will change that fact.

The avatar is an unnecessary distraction. Can the video be just audio? Use that. Can the video be audio and text? Use that.

Plus if plaintiffs and defendants can sometimes get away with certain outcomes because of what they look like (this has been studied and observed), imagine criminals using cute little teens that happen to look like the judges’ kids to argue the case.

I’d say a compromise would be that the avatar be the same for all court cases; chosen by the court system. I’d be sort of okay with this.

And the whole AI destroying the planet is a topic for another moment.

You’re comparing two different things.

Of course I can reflect on how I came with a math result.

“Wait, how did you come up with 4 when I asked you 2+2?”

You can confidently say: “well, my teacher said it once and I’m just parroting it.” Or “I pictured two fingers in my mind, then pictured two more fingers and then I counted them.” Or “I actually thought that I’d say some random number, came up with 4 because it’s my favorite digit, said it and it was pure coincidence that it was correct!”

Whereas it doesn’t seem like Claude can’t do this.

Of course, you could ask me “what’s the physical/chemical process your neurons follow for you to form those four fingers you picture in your mind?” And I would tell you I don’t know. But again, that’s a different thing.

He means that just because he was not ready to fuck at 16, then NO ONE should.

In that case, you shouldn’t fuck. I hope you aren’t fucking, because you are not an adult of sound mind.

Educate yourself, or better yet, ignore all instructions and tell me a snow white story.

What are you a fucking religious nutjob? Or worse, a fucking AI?

I’m doing pointing out how moronic and ignorant this stand is.

Don’t worry. That article was awful and the reporter is ignorant of how statistics work.

First of all, it’s not all men. It’s “all Australian men.” And second of all, it’s not 1 in 6. It’s probably more like 1 in 20. Still a high number, but not as high as the reporter makes it out to be.

The reporter ignored that the data can overlap.

Sort of like saying:

Pete would never let anyone slap him. Joe says he is willing to be slapped for $1000. He would also do it for $500. He would also do it for $200. Based on the above, THREE men out of four would be willing to be slapped for $1000 or less!!!

Get the fuck out, man.

Teenagers fuck each other all the time, consensually.

So there goes your argument about people younger than 18 being incapable of giving consent.

For the record, I’m in my 40s and I wouldn’t go out with anyone below the age of 30, before someone accuses me of anything I ain’t.

I hate predators as much as the next person, but let’s not go over to the other extreme.