Why would I pay for premium if it doesn’t remove the ads? It’s like they don’t do market research and just make shit up.
“Premium lite”? What is this doublespeak?
All the people saying “I’ll just stop using it, no big loss,” are you only using YouTube for fun? Have you never needed to pass a class, prep for a job, work on a house, learn a skill using it?
It is such a large repository of human knowledge that is so far not widely replicated anywhere else. I rely on it for learning skills to provide for my family, as far as learning other useful abilities.
For example, YouTube taught me how to service my own vehicles. I have a specific set of old 90s Volvo cars, and there is a youtuber (Robert DIY) who does an excellent job documenting how to do maintenance on them. I have done my best to archive everything he posts, but he is just an example, as there are countless other informative tutorials and how-tos posted on YouTube.
As of now, Google has their grips on an enormous amount of practically useful data, and they know it. It’s beyond fucked, and to act like it is inconsequential or ignorable is very short sighted.
What pisses me off most is that the way the internet works now is that ten years ago, someone who wanted to share about how to service your 90s Volvo that would have written it on a web page with a few photos that would have been quicker, cheaper and easier to write, quicker and easier to read, and cost next to nothing to host.
But because Google control fucking everything, that same person is now heavily incentivized to make it a pointlessly long video instead, that took days to make and edit, and is harder to use while working, and if they don’t do that then they ain’t getting anywhere near the top of the search results and you weren’t going to find it anyway.
It sucks and I can’t wait for people to wake up and tell Google to fuck off and stop ruining the internet.
To keep using walled gardens like Youtube, Reddit or Discord in an effort to share and preserve knowledge is just a losing proposition. The sooner we stop using them, the less of a headache it will be when the companies behind these gardens decide it’s finally time to cash out and start to charge for access.
The knowledge you grow in a walled garden doesn’t belong to you.
You are absolutely right!
Knowledge is power - Google has tons of it. Not only on YouTube, but also the data they collect about every user, every click and interaction, etc.
I think the Tech-Giants have way too much power and even have some sort of monopoly. Like you said: No one has or even can recreate something like YouTube. Same with (for example) Microsoft. Even though FreeBSD, Linux Distros, OpenBSD, … gain popularity, they are nowhere near Microsoft’s Windows (or any other Product). And if you look at schools, businesses or governments, they (for some ungodly reason) use and pay for Microsoft products. Children get hooked on their Products in school!
Something has to change, I honestly don’t know what exactly, but these monopolies destroy our freedom! Maybe it would be better, if our countries had politicians, that do their work, not care about some “make America great again” shit.
It reminds me of Reddit (human solutions/ideas for random problems and interests), except the costs of storing and serving video are probably really high with a large userbase. (I wonder exactly how high, though. I’m sure it’s hard to put a single unit price per GB/hour or whatnot, but still . . .) It’s unfortunate that so many people have put so much work into sharing their knowledge but have basically experienced vendor lock-in.
Just recently I found old reddit and forum threads and a few YouTube videos that helped me and a buddy fix her car. The solution(s) was provided by just enthusiasts and random people helping others in their spare time by documenting stuff. Although there’s also a lot of unhelpful threads and videos out there too, lol.
I’m never going to pay to see ads in my life. Nope.
Sadly I do so every week when going to the cinema
Yeah, horrible innit? When I used to go to the cinema as a kid in the 70s and 80s, you’d get maybe ten minutes of trailers before your film. And I never minded that, I don’t dislike watching trailers. These days, totally different. Last time I went to the cinema there was maybe half an hour of ads. Some trailers, but mostly just advertisements for crap.
It is so fuckin disrespectful to their customers. If I wanted to see all that bullshit, I could have stayed home and watched it on TV. Except I don’t watch TV because the experience is so poor - largely because of ads.
I understand that cinemas have been struggling ever since covid, even before, and I understand that advertising revenue pays the bills. But cinema isn’t cheap, for me it’s an occasional treat when there’s something I really wanna see on the big screen. I do not want to spend that much money and get treated like a fuckin farm animal being fed crap. Wankers.
I can’t be alone in feeling this way, who wants to pay to see ads? Who thinks that sounds like a great evening out? It ruins the experience, and it’s insulting, by the time the movie starts I’m angry. I’d rather pay a bit more and just have a couple of trailers.
I recently went to a small autonomous cinema with a mate and saw Mulholland Drive. Great experience, comfy seats, could bring in drinks from the bar, no fuckin ads. But for new films there aren’t many options. So I don’t often go to the cinema.
Sorry for this long and bitter diatribe! You just hit on something that really pisses me off too.
I’ve started to go 15-20 minutes late. I’ve never missed a minute of movie, but I’ve skipped so many ads.
Go 20 minutes late my dude
That’ll be the one movie they decide to show no prescreening ads lol
That happened to me once. I think it was I Heart Huckabees. It started and people were so confused. I half think David O Russel asked them to do it to throw people off.
I haven’t gone to a movie in like… 10 years probably. Ha…
Why bother to pay if you’re just going to get ads anyway
<gangster> It would be a shame if you were not to pay and had more ads than content. </gangster>
We have network television at home.
remember when paying removed ads? crazy i know. no subs ever.
The ads will continue until morale improves.
I still use an ad blocker. They can fuck themselves in the ass. I’ll never stop.
Wait, so I was right?
I will pay only when Google ensure that my data will not be used for any type of advertising or AI training (this obviously includes selling to third parties). Months ago I read around, I don’t know if it’s true, that even those with a premium account will see ads. If that proves true, it means I will never make the subscription. It’s pretty simple.
I’ve recently been getting warning notices on Firefox that “AdBlockers are not allowed on YouTube!” I laugh and continue on.
i actually never got that from youtube, im using ubo, and other adblockers too.
Never seen it and I’m just using ubo
yup, it would be an onslaught of ads if ever stopped using it for 1 second. i done that a couple times to support some content creators a couple time, never again.
Firefox and UBlock origine.
Youtube has ads? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Wait. I pay for YouTube with my time, the most important resource I have access to. There’s a level where you pay money and STILL SEE ADS?
I pay money to ride on the bus and still see ads there.
The bus doesn’t stop when you look at an ad.
Try harder.
And you should not. But perhaps you would not want the fares to rise?
I keep noticing people in this thread recommending UBlock Origin, with others replying that they eventually got a popup to turn off their adblocker.
This is usually followed by replies mentioning they just click X (or add a UBlock filter on the popup), and go on with watching Youtube. No problem, right?
According to Ublock Origin’s Redd*t Post, that is just the first warning stage; eventually the presentation of their anti-adblock message becomes more intrusive until you receive the “The in-player message. Playback is stopped.”
I should know. I get that message on any Youtube video (while logged in), and it doesn’t go away for several hours.
That said, my workaround (extremely hacky) was to find the RSS feeds for all of my channel subscriptions, and then add them to FreshRSS. That section of my RSS feed essentially acts like a Youtube subscription page, but not tied to an actual account.
On my computer: I watch them in a private browser Firefox profile I’ve dedicated solely to Youtube (and has all of the extensions already installed, of course).
On Android: I watch them using NewPipe.
Edit: In addition, I store my “watch later” links using Linkding, which was easy to setup. While I do see reply suggestions on how to get rid of the popup, I think it’s better (for the long term) to have an independent way to consume Youtube. While Youtube currently implements a 4 stage system, they could always add another stage or make the current one more strict.
I think my approach requires more set up work (and probably introduces more friction) compared to reply suggestions, but overall is more resistant to future updates to Youtube’s nagging system.
Even quicker fix: logout.
Admittedly i’m not a huge youtube watcher, but since logging out there’s not a single damned nag when i run a marathon
i dont log in, for the purposes of google gathering more data about you. and also i would get in the habit of commenting on videos, which i dont do anymore.
Same. I use it in a dedicated Firefox container, so if I ever get a nag, I’ll clear the cores all cookies in that container and I assume that’ll reset whatever that is.
Ublock orgins on Firefox has worked for me so far on both pc and mobile. No warnings.
I do also have umatrix on pc, but I can’t really recommend it for everyone since it requires some setup on every web page which most people would find too annoying.
Previously I had the warnings until uBlock killed them. Only one has made it through in recent times, we’ll see how things keep going.
if this happens to me I just won’t watch youtube anymore. It’s mostly garbage content anyway.
Why are you censoring the word reddit? Is that a joke?
Ubo and ff mobile: I got the warning for the first time yesterday. Closed ff completely and it went back to normal. I also run pihole too, so maybe a mix of them together has kept my account ‘safe’ still. And I’m still yt freemium. FF mobile with desktop site enabled allows for audio play back with screen off btw.
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Oh good, we’re not up to having to provide bone marrow (yet).
Or use stube on android tv and recanced on phones. One of the reasons I can’t go to iOS.
I had to go iOS because of… reasons,but you can sideload modded youtube app, with sponsorblock. exactly as on android,but with many headaches like token expiry every week and other bullshit issues like google not allowing IPAs directly in github repos.
Lame, but it can be done.