• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    6 days ago

    Switch to Linux, today. It’s always been the better option, but for the last decade it’s been the easier option as well. Installing Linux is a walk in the park whereas windows is a Hilarious clown show from hell with no end.

    That reminds me that now in the office we’re dealing with windows machines where the network card just stops working, drivers are suddenly gone. Don’t ask, it’s windows, it’s Microsoft abd this is just considered normal. If a Linux machine has a bug it’s “oh my god Linux sucks sooo hard, it’s impossible to get it to work!” but this Microsoft bullshit just gets handwaved away with “well computers are complicated, let’s just reinstall this”

    Yes, there is still a limited set of specialty hardware that may not have drivers available for Linux, but the vast majority of people can easily run Linux and have a much MUCH better experience than windows, and that is ignoring the spyware, the adware, the ads, the plain security nightmare of having a windows machine…

    Switch to Linux, it’s easy, it’s beautiful, it’s fun. Come to Linux, come to the dark side, we have cookies

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      Installing Linux is a walk in the park whereas windows is a Hilarious clown show from hell with no end.

      As a server maybe. Switching everything on my desktop to Linux has been a constant fight against all kinds of problems and there’s several things I haven’t been able to get working at all. Microsoft’s constant enshittification is closing the gap and it’s currently a tossup between which one I’m going to land on but that’s not Linux improving so much as Windows getting worse.

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        It’s very hardware dependent with a few problem’s like Nvidia. For Best results go established brands that support Linux like thinkpads.

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          5 days ago

          That advice doesn’t help much when I already have all the hardware. The whole point is not having to buy new shit.

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            I wasn’t trying to give you advice, I was describing the situation in general. 🤷

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          Exactly, I have a bunch of weird issues when running Linux on my Lenovo Legion 5 Pro with an RTX3060. So unfortunately I w9nt be switching until the situation improves.

          It’s not even about gaming either, virtually all animations are like 2fps, no matter the drivers or power management. I wasted days on this with some guys from the Lenovo Legion Linux discord server, and some with exactly the same laptop don’t have the same issue, but windows runs fine.

          It’s a real shame that, maybe on the next laptop!

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              Thanks for the lead, but I’m afraid I don’t know what to do with these modules. Do they only work with NixOS?

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                Yeah sorry should have listed that, they do require a NixOS installation.

                Pick a DE for the installer, and if you want to change DE the installer will guide you through the process.

                Then it will leave you with a config file and some man pages, it’s a bit much at first but spend some time with it. In my eyes easily one of the better distros out there.

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      That reminds me that now in the office we’re dealing with windows machines where the network card just stops working, drivers are suddenly gone. Don’t ask, it’s windows, it’s Microsoft abd this is just considered normal. If a Linux machine has a bug it’s “oh my god Linux sucks sooo hard, it’s impossible to get it to work!” but this Microsoft bullshit just gets handwaved away with “well computers are complicated, let’s just reinstall this”

      Ah, yes, that. I switched in 2011 and the first impressions were about how flawless everything is compared to Windows.

      the plain security nightmare of having a windows machine…

      Eh, about that - Linux really isn’t immune to that. Just right now Windows is still by far the more profitable target.

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        Linux security is not perfect, nothing is. But compared to windows security? Come on, seriously? Is .exe still the extension that’ll automatically execute a program?

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          I’m not sure this is anywhere near what a security comparison would look like.

          And the fact that the traditional Unix security model is being augmented with ACLs and selinux and what not hints, that it’s not sufficient. And what these things are being used for is, well, similar to Windows security model.

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        It’s better now but twenty years ago some Linux distros were so insecure out of the box that you could be fully owned if you logged into the wrong network.

        Even still, I don’t see most distros leverage the security capabilities that running Linux enables. Linux runs the server side of the internet, being a niche os isn’t the security silver bullet it once was.

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          Pretty sure this guy didn’t use Linux twenty years ago. Outside of very basic computing, Linux wasn’t very useful.

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            I’ve been running Linux exclusively since 2001 or so. It was rough around the edges back then, but it was useful enough for what I needed.

            You had to choose a good distro on that note; redhat, mandrake, etc broke on me so many times, and I was only able to fully switch after finding slackware, which was rock solid.

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              I remember suse and Debian where ahead of the curve back then. Package managers really changed the game when they started showing up around then. I will admit I’m probably a little too cynical. But I had to run windows through college for various software, and until recently playing most games on Linux was quite the challenge. Steam has truly cracked the code. So I’m dipping my toes back into Linux for daily use. I’ve been running my truenas server for a few years now and run several Linux VM’s so I’m not starting from scratch.

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                I was pretty lucky in university as most of my profs were either using cross platform stuff or Linux exclusive software. I had a single class that wanted me using windows stuff and I just dropped that one.

                Awesome that you’re getting back into it, it’s definitely the best it’s ever been (and you’re right that Steam cracked the code). It sounds like you probably know what you’re doing if you’re running Linux VMs and stuff, but feel free to shoot me a PM if you run into any questions or issues I might be able to point you in the right direction for.

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            Pretty sure this guy built a 5 user machine with 5 monitors, keyboards, audio, all on a single 2gig Celeron machine. Built the software for all of it in 3 months. That is not 1 user on a desktop but 5 at the same time. 1 user was even back then better, bect I remember all the Regex.exe posts that is sooooo much easier than typing a command somewhere

            That was 17 years ago.

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      Seriously. If you’re used to fiddling with Windows and especially if you have installed Windows recently, go try something like Linux Mint. Just the install process will blow your mind. And then wait until you get a system update and it doesn’t affect what you’re doing!

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          Yeah I guess I left that part out! It’s funny because like so many things in Linux, you have all the power but you often don’t need to use it because the same problems just aren’t there.

          You get to decide when to apply the updates, but they are so quick and unobtrusive that I choose to apply them immediately!

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      6 days ago

      But what if we already use Linux? Can we still have some cookies? Or is this new users only?