Let’s meef for lunvh is actually the result when you switch autocorrect off
I switxh between three different la gauge. Ny Autocorrect is fu ked up
Whoch i do cause I don’t want to give more data, and it kept being wrong. I’d rather have the occaisonal wrong ketter.
Is it just me, or does autocorrect paper-over the fact that touch-screen keyboards are kind of garbage?
For me, turning off autocorrect reveals how hard it is to be both accurate and precise with key presses on these things.
I’ve been using thumbkey for a while now. The first few days were torture but once you’re used to it there’s no going back.
Flickboard over here, I don’t necessarily type as fast as I did with qwerty, but my sentences don’t get horribly garbled with the wrong letters all over the place
kind of the opposite for me. i never use autocorrect, and when i type in a very long password, i am always surprised how often i get it first try
Happens to me all the time. I also find even when I use proper grammar it will get messed up when I post. Because I read over it before I post and still isn’t right. Most times I say fuck it. I just hate using a tiny keyboard, but I am not sitting at a desk doing Lemmy all day.
Autocorrect used to be so much better. Now it is incapable of leaving contractions alone, so people think I’m possessive of objects or humanizing them. You don’t accjdentally an “it’s.” Autocorrect is tarnishing my reputation with grammar nazis, and I’m afraid I’ll have to become a grammar communist, but red isn’t flattering for my complexion.
Autocorrect is tarnishing my reputation with grammar nazis
accjdentally
I’m sorry. ❤️
Why do you have to give apology to me? Now I must distribute among proletariat.
My problem is that sentences end up like the meme, where autocorrect does nothing to address the typo.
It loves leaving words like anf alone, even though it’s not a word.
Just tun it off then? Why is everyone struggeling with this so much?
Because it genuinely used to make fewer mistakes just a few years ago, and has noticeably worsened
It geniunely did
i disable autocorrect because i hate it when it guesses the wrong word much more than i dislike making a typo.
my dude is powering up from that coffee
My only gripe with Autocorrect is that it will sometimes take a perfectly cromulent word or sentence and change it to something that makes me sound like an imbecile.
I don’t know how I feel about “cromulent” being in the dictionary now. Its sort of great that The Simpsons create this type of effect, but now it ruins the joke.
Man I went on a rabbit hole, but basically “Cromulent has crept so deep into the language that it has even shown up as a hypothetical example in a Supreme Court amicus brief.”
Link to that ruling.
I was wondering if anyone would catch that.
My gripe is that it doesn’t understand that non-white names are a thing.
It will not let you use basic turns of phrase. Like “turn of phrase” will get autocorrected to something else. And then you have to go back and be like, no, let me type that again so you understand, phone. All the time
I remember a time when autocorrect was terrible then it became good and then, terrible again. What happened?
They switched to using gpt2 lol
I’m not fluent in neural network systems, but I thought it was NLP in the early 10s and not GPT.
Yea, then they switched.
When? I don’t see that any where.
I may be mixing up correction and prediction, although I think the two are related. https://jackcook.com/2023/09/08/predictive-text.html
That makes sense. I’m not sure how they are related, but it’s not my field. I wonder what prediction used before gpt.
My cynical mind says they broke autocomplete to encourage voice to text which is a much more rich data mining avenue than text only. Think of what all information about yourself can be determined just from your voice, which passes through Google servers when you use their voice to text and they most definitely keep.
I don’t ever remember it being good, and I predate cell phones.
I think what happened is:
-Initially it was terrible, but it was not imposed on you, so you just ignored it and kept typing as if it weren’t even there, unless you legit could not figure out how to spell a word.
-Then it got better and gave decent suggestions occasionally, so people started integrating into their typing workflow as an assistant to quickly complete common words, or to figure out longer/more complex words.
-Somewhere along the way it began to impose itself on your typing to the point where it was expected that you would accept its suggestions the majority of the time. So even if it’s right 98% of the time, having to manually fight with it every other sentence is a MAJOR hassle
As a simple illustration of the last point, I remember the default behavior was that if you started to backspace an autocorrected word, the system assumed it got it wrong and let you fix it. Now the default behavior is to ignore you and keep autocorrecting until you tap a special key to insist you know what you are doing (at least on my Samsung phone)
Just a shot in the dark here, but maybe they aren’t accounting for code switching between different apps on your phone and that is skewing your prediction algorithm. You’re phone is guess at what word you’re typing based on everything you’ve ever typed and not just what you text in the messenger app.
Actually, this was me yeah. I was typing on my new keyboard and it isn’t quite the same as my old one and it wrote own his wing, and i just thought com it, I’ll just leave whatever nonsense of comes out with. Who cars. Pele well be able to figure of what i was trying to day and it’ll be OK. Will, yesterday i have in and wooed it, but today you have emboldened me an I’ll just post abreast. Duck it. And thank you.
I acres Sith thuis sentiment. Sometimes I forget tot chance my language, nut rally whoose fault is Thatcher? I dienst program thuis pils of shit, I can’t taken responsibility tot wat te recipiënt makers of thuis. Who cafés. Hoi are a smart personen, you van figuren it out. Let nobody push you of thuis hill, stand proudly andere boldly they have ontving in you.
Yeah is definitely not your fault. Although Thatcher has been dad for years now so i don’t really think we can blame her, even though we can blame very for wire a Lt of neonatal veal she October on the UK in the 80s.
Sometimes i forget to check venue i P’s send and end up posting some garbage that i have to go back and wit. Is really account, but in getting the gang of engendering to check add i go along.
Here is my safe space for just taking it as of comes.
In the last 5 years autocorrect appears to have got horrendous.
The amount of times it changes on to in or splits a word up in to totally different words 🤬
I have it recognize English and diagnostic, and it always changes the word “so” to “si”. and so isn’t even an option on the menu! ugh!!!
leaving diagnostic as evidence of frustration. I meant Spanish. swipe texting is cool but sometimes frustrating
Typos are usually easier to figure out than when people pick the wrong word in autocorrect.
Yeah this isn’t correcting auticorrect, it’s disabling it.
Full manual baybeeeeee
Big if truce
I hate that autocorrect defaults to such common words making it impossible to type anything without manually typing in “rare” shit. Or when spell checks just don’t know enough words. I shouldn’t have to add materiel to the dictionary in an age where modern browsers require 36 threads and 3gb to check my email.
What I find shocking is how terrible swipe-texting has gotten. Back in the early days of Swype and SwiftKey it was fantastic. Now I’m lucky to string together a single sentence without it getting 4 words wrong.
When Microsoft bought Swiftkey it went downhill.
With swype, there’s a whole new generation of typos - swypos.
Today I asked a coworker to check the robot. But the text said check the double. To attempt to decode a swypo you have to use a combination of guesswork and looking at the trace path for the suspect word to see if it might be close to your guess.
Swypo, love it. Brand new word…
Isn’t swype dead? You can still use SwiftKey though.
I’m not sure. I think swipe is the method of typing whereas swype is or was a brand.
Swype was the first swiping keyboard but SwiftKey perfected it. SwiftKey is also Microsoft spyware that was formerly Israeli spyware so there’s that.
Swype was closed down over half a decade ago. Wild.
I don’t understand this. If I’m typing on a computer and I make a typo, I’ll fix it. Why not on my phone with autocorrect? Either have it on and fix the “errors” (more like false positives) it makes, or turn it off. 🤷♂️👍
the amount of effort it takes me to ignore a typo that I’ve noticed is far greater than what it takes to fix it
however, seeking typos in a long passage is admite story
I’m not going to edit that word, duck it
The thing with swipe typing is that it is also touch typing, so you can tell immediately when you make a mistake, just like with a physical keyboard. So while typing this comment e.g., I only paused to look down to type “e.g.” because it involved the periods. Otherwise everything was done looking at the text itself, allowing me to catch errors immediately. 👍 No need to search.
Naw, trying to fix the corrected correction for autocorrect is so annoying. Agreed with the computer scenario but with phone…… maybe if it was a flip phone, you have more con control with that, not a “smart” phone.
I’m going to just take a guess: Most people who have a problem with autocorrect type each letter individually by pressing each letter?
I almost never have an issue with autocorrect because I type in either of two ways:
- Swipe typing, which is way faster than normal typing IMO. And on the occasion that there’s a collision with the swipe motion, all I have to do is press the incorrect word on the text, and select the correct one from a tiny list of three most common words with that similar motion. Never fails, very quick.
- Typing each letter individually, but here I just start typing the beginning of the word, then I pick the suggestion from the top of the keyboard to complete the word without having to type the whole thing out. Also way faster than normal typing. Often using this method, I don’t even have to start typing the word at all, or just a single letter, or a couple of letters is enough.
In both cases, correcting is very fast. Much faster than corrections using a real, physical keyboard, which you said you would do. So really, logically I have no reason to be annoyed with autocorrect — and I am also actually not annoyed with it. 👍
I hope this might help someone.
I understand your position and for me I’m not sure if it’s my age or starting with flip phone I can type faster than smart phone with no error.
When technology evolved your examples came in order of 2 then 1. I did do option 2 but the phones kept getting “smarter”. At this point I just over it and these “smart” phones are doing too much. Which Im slowly reverting back to a flip phone. Well a smart flip phone if they’re still around, need some apps to live in this world.
I understand if age might be a limiting factor here. I’m nearing 40 myself. But I still think phones are getting smarter, rather than “‘smarter’”. Phones are incredibly capable these days. It’s the app makers who are making shit apps, more like. Designed to hog our attention and waste our time.
But the phones just run what they’re told to run, bless them. 🥰
My kids keep asking me if they can play games on my phone, which can definitely run games very well. I tell them I have no games on it (which is the truth), and they let me have my phone to myself. 😆 Also no TikTok or Snapchat and garbage like that. 👍 They will learn to be bored and find/make entertainment themselves, like I did damnit!
I’m going to just take a guess: Most people who have a problem with autocorrect type each letter individually by pressing each letter?
Possibly. I’m in that group, for what it’s worth.
- Was unaware that was even a thing. As a long-time touch-typist, doing this never even occurred to me. And I know how to use Palm Pilot Graffiti input, so I’m admittedly embarrassed here.
- My vocabulary is broader than the auto-complete’s dictionary/prediction, so what I want to say isn’t even a suggestion more than half of the time. I’ve struggled with this since iOS 3, and most recently on Android. It’s never been very useful for me.
Then there is/was this feature that resizes key hitboxes on the fly, based on prediction. I’m unaware if that’s still a thing, but at the time, it absolutely screwed with my thumb-typing muscle-memory in the worst way. Until I learned about this, I was convinced that I was just garbage at hitting the keys, then I started seeing it mis-register keypresses when I looked closely.
From all that I think I see the problem. These systems are compromises for a huge range of different users and communication styles. So it’s going to be pretty mid for a lot of folks until (people like me) move to the middle where the software wants people to be. Were it not for the sake of clear, personalized, and expressive communication, I’d be on board with that.
- Was unaware that was even a thing.
It’s been pretty great for single-thumb typing ever since it started being common, many years ago.
- My vocabulary is broader than the auto-complete’s dictionary/prediction, so what I want to say isn’t even a suggestion more than half of the time.
Could you give me an example of this? Also which keyboard do you use as input? iOS/Android?
I’m using whatever the stock keyboard is on Google Android. Since we’re on the topic, I’m open to suggestions. Especially if I’m going to re-train to swiping inputs.
It’s hard to pin down anything specific as an example. If I had to sum it up, its usually where I want to use a long word with a common root for others. There could be eight or so different ways to go for auto-completion, but my choice is seldom in the top three.
the stock keyboard is on Google Android. Since we’re on the topic, I’m open to suggestions.
Is the stock keyboard GBoard nowadays? That’s what I use. It has swipe typing built-in. But if you want more privacy, I’d try FUTO keyboard. It’s pretty darn solid IMO, especially for a FOSS and gratis keyboard.
I keep turning it off, but it always finds its way back on somehow. It pisses me off.
Which keyboard do you use, out of curiosity?
I was using Google’s until recently. Now I am using FUTO.
Ah yeah. I tried FUTO but I felt like it was less accurate than GBoard. Otherwise I would definitely use it. Great product for the price. 😁
