• Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com
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    21 days ago

    That’s a good litmus test. If asking/paying artists to train your AI destroys your business model, maybe you’re the arsehole. ;)

    • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
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      21 days ago

      Not only that, but their business model doesn’t hold up if they were required to provide their model weights for free because the material that went into it was “free”.

      • T156@lemmy.world
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        21 days ago

        There’s also an argument that if the business was that reliant on free things to start with, then it shouldn’t be a business.

        No-one would bat their eyes if the CEO of a real estate company was sobbing that it’s the end of the rental market, because the company is no longer allowed to get houses for free.

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          21 days ago

          Businesses relying on free things. Logging, mining, ranching, and oil come to mind. Extracting free resources of the land belonging to the public, destroying those public lands and selling those resources back to the public at an exorbitant markup.

      • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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        21 days ago

        And he also said “child pornography is not necessarily abuse.”

        In the US, it is illegal to possess or distribute child pornography, apparently because doing so will encourage people to sexually abuse children.

        This is absurd logic. Child pornography is not necessarily abuse. Even if it was, preventing the distribution or posession of the evidence won’t make the abuse go away. We don’t arrest everyone with videotapes of murders, or make it illegal for TV stations to show people being killed.

        Wired has an article on how these laws destroy honest people’s lives.

        https://web.archive.org/web/20130116210225/http://bits.are.notabug.com/

        Big yikes from me whenever I see him venerated.

      • ccunning@lemmy.world
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        21 days ago

        Yes, and he killed himself after the FBI was throwing the book at him for doing exactly what these AI assholes are doing without repercussion

        • FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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          21 days ago

          And for some reason suddenly everyone leaps back to the side of the FBI and copyright because it’s a meme to hate on LLMs.

          It’s almost like people don’t have real convictions.

          You can’t be Team Aaron when it’s popular and then Team Copyright Maximalist when the winds change and it’s time to hate on LLMs or diffusion models.

  • rainrain@sh.itjust.works
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    19 days ago

    To be fair copyright is a disease. But then so is billionaires, capitalism, business, etc.

    I mean, if there’s a war, and you shoot somebody, does that make you bad?

    Yes and no.